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Cabaret, Tribal/Tribal Fusion Bellydance in New York
By Neon

Bellydance is not what it used to be. These days a lot of us, dance professionals and hobbyists, are giving much thought to the trends that have emerged in modern Western bellydance in the past couple decades, in particular to the rise of Tribal/Tribal fusion and other fusion bellydance styles. It's still early days for Tribal here, in NYC, but this is a good moment to stop and take a close look at what could become a prominent trend.

In NYC, the Tribal/Tribal fusion style is virtually unseen by a consumer of culture or arty entertainment, or even a bellydance enthusiast/student. Here, a bellydancer is a sleek sequined sexy creature, fluid in movement, ingratiating yet with rock-tough "New York attitude."

The first-ever NYC venue to offer a regular performing opportunity to Tribal/Tribal fusion dancers is My Moon Restaurant and Lounge, a very California-style, un-New-York (complete with an outdoor fireplace!) lovely spot in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. Carmine's "Djinn" band (all young, non-Middle Eastern/Mediterranean musicians) plays cool experimental improv. It's New York City music, US East Coast world music, East Coast Tribal fusion bellydance music. Sera, who moved to NYC from Washington DC and created the gig, does her best to keep the Turkish owners of My Moon interested in Tribal/Tribal fusion style (along with de rigueur cabaret acts.)

The My Moon gig was born in the fall of '05. As a result, an otherwise fairly empty restaurant in the middle of a non-descript industrial-looking block filled with the famed hip and young "beautiful people" of Williamsburg. The composition of the crowd is almost as unusual to a New York bellydance aficionado's eye as the Tribal style often performed there. The crowd at My Moon is generally younger, more "metropolitan" and "cool" - the precious human contingent that any Manhattan club owner dreams of attracting.

To an untrained East Coast eye, Tribal/Tribal fusion bellydance looks detached and aloof, because it is overtly not about glamour or pleasing the crowd or any other commercial values. It looks "indie," it looks trendy, it feels like somewhere there is a powerful subculture feeding its deep roots.

An important factor contributing to the success of Tribal/Tribal fusion styles is the fact that more educated audiences are interested in a less "commercial" and less sexualized look, they want to see "art fantasy" rather than "sexual fantasy." The revival of burlesque confirms this trend by isolating the sexualized content into its own theatrical realm packaged for consumption as a non-fantasy genre.

While historians of bellydance remind us that the term "cabaret" was introduced by early "Tribal" or "pre-Tribal" dancers to put down the glitzy, "superficial," sexualized "harem girl" acts, most modern-day bellydancers love the term "cabaret" and take pride in their "cabaret" skills. Indeed, it does take guts to walk out right in the middle of your audience and pull off your act talking to them in the language of dance face-to-face and handling their reactions with discretion and tact - without the buffer of theatrical detachment common in high-end stage dance arts.

"Cabaret"-style dancers often misinterpret the "detached" facial expressions of Tribal or fusion dancers. However, more often than not, there is a solid market-related reason for every innovation. In a creative context, a smile often connotes commercial appeal, and therefore a smile-less and even expression-less face looks more theatrical and artful. Eliminating interaction with an audience via strong eye contact and facial expressions, is an easy way to achieve a "theater look" as opposed to a "variety show" look. Fusion bellydance acts where the only "fusion" features (in an otherwise entirely AmCab show) are a few cowry shells in the costume, plus a detached facial expression, do actually work. They ARE fusion, because they bend one of the parameters of the "cabaret" act - interactivity, addressing the audience directly.

And, indeed, even when the "cabaret" dancer takes a regal stand or withdraws into the realm of veiled elusiveness, she implicitly still seeks her audience's approval. She belongs to her audience, given and committed to them in many ways, including the over-the-top, attention-seeking glamour of her looks - she is the visual candy, an embodied fantasy.

In Tribal bellydance the nature of the body adornment and costuming is such that the beauty of the bodies and costumes looks like it is in its natural, functional context of festive adornment, not artificial glamour overtly serving fantasy. We know, it's "artificial", it is just another kind of "fantasy," but the Tribal/Tribal fusion look and blend of movements circumvent our analytical response, and appeal to our intuitive communal nature deep within, to our female (or male) yearning "to belong", to find commuity of kindred spirits - be it fantasy world or real life. As I watch Tribal/Tribal fusion dance, I feel like I happened to be present at a family celebration, or at a ritual where I am invited as a guest of honor, not as a paying customer. Tribal dance creates this illusion of a non-commercial environment: The illusion of a realm of powerful femininity.

And catering to a female customer is what really counts. Experienced club owners instruct bellydancers, "Get girls up to dance" - i.e. forget the ancient spiel of teaching a guy "victim" "how to bellydance" - make the empowered 21st-century female happy and feeling like she belongs here, get her up from her table to show off her body and clothes, - SHE is the one who is hard to please, not the men. Trendy "meat market" and corporate hangout bars in Manhattan go out of their way to offer you free dinner and drinks if you are a gorgeous girl interested in perching at their bar at peak Friday night hours. The "Meat market" scene aside, most experienced venue owners (excluding male-oriented venues) are concerned with pleasing women first.

Even though Tribal/Tribal fusion bellydance is hardly on the commercial dance map in NYC at present, I can see - developing into the future - a growing demand for artful female-oriented, sexy but no-intended-sexual-innuendo dance entertainment where Tribal fusion can become a common local option.

The times and the tastes are changing, especially in trend-setting environments like NYC. The local population grows more mature, age- and taste-wise, spoiled with a dazzling display of world-class performing arts. The connection between bellydance and Orientalism has been entirely lost as far as a rank-and-file consumer of entertainment is concerned. If I owned a bar in Manhattan, I would be thinking Tribal fusion. If I ran a bellydance studio or a fitness club, I would invite Tribal fusion teachers to offer classes. A significant component of the success of Tribal is that Tribal classes focus a lot on body awareness and drills, thus promoting the cultural crossover of bellydance -- similar to other "exotic" holistic disciplines like yoga, that have successfully made this journey to the west.

Performing "cabaret" bellydance in a classy, artful manner requires much more acting, self-confidence, worldliness, experience and female integrity than performing a "Tribal " act which offers no sexualized fantasy and does not require any extra skills to adapt this fantasy to more refined tastes.
A "Cabaret" act requires maneuvering between what you really are and what your audience's fantasy is. Successful "cabaret" dancers are all decent-to-fine actresses. No amount of bodily beauty or good technique can replace this ability to act, the nimbleness and flight of imagination where intricate novels of romance and mystery are written on the fly.

Female audiences can enjoy cabaret acts in a very direct way, in the manner of identifying with the dancer, living out her life story, - if the dancer has the skill and audacity to convey it. It's similar to reading a romance novel, or watching a romantic film. But to appeal to female audiences in this way, a "cabaret" dancer must be extra skilled and intuitive.

Tribal acts create an illusion that cabaret acts are incapable of - the illusion of "no illusion," the illusion of the actual communal celebration, ritual or high-end performance act. A Tribal act will appeal to female audiences effortlessly as long as it is conceptualized and executed well.

We don't often talk about the social trends that have promoted and supported the rise of Tribal and fusion bellydance. Yet the origins of these new dance forms are not purely artistic, they emerged from the ethnic and class dynamics of the US during the past 30 years.

The ingenuity of the early pre-ATS "tribal" or non-glamour fantasy bellydance was a bid to get rid of the "bellydancer as embodiment of sexual fantasy" stereotype. Although based (in some aspects) on a lack of information and a desire to comply with conservative or "high-art" standards of the artists' immediate reference group, these early visionary explorations found the niche that would later flourish via much better strategy, stronger creativity, more inclusive and empowered attitudes of the American Tribal Style and thanks to the powerful shift in the class and ethnic structure of the target audiences.

While the first-generation Middle Eastern and Mediterranean immigrants in the US flocked to the nightclubs, yearning for a flavour of their traditional arts and entertainment, decades later their children emerge as conservative and educated individuals, uninterested in or consciously rejecting the garish nightclub environment of their grandparents' entertainment. They buy their drugs elsewhere. They hook up elsewhere. They move to suburbs and exurbs. Most urban "ethnic" nightclubs, such as NYC's Arabic clubs, die. Bellydance shifts to other markets, seeking non-Middle Eastern/Mediterranean audiences at Arabian/Turkish-themed restaurants and non-"ethnic" venues, including mega clubs and fantasy-themed venues, such as Renaissance fairs and Goth clubs. The class shift is apparent as well: the older-age, less educated audiences are yielding to younger, more educated, professional and creative demographics.

The 20th century saw the fusion trend arrive in practically every form of Western art. Artists and art hobbyists learned to focus on their own creative potential, on innovation, rather than on emulating established art forms. It became common - in any art - to circumvent "academic" standards. The rise of Tribal bellydance reflects this trend of adapting ethnic, traditional and "classical" art forms to modern, highly individualized languages of self expression never employed by traditional/folk artists.

Dancers often condemn the "harem girl" stereotype of a bellydancer. Any performing dancer, however, knows that most people in the "mainstream" audience don't even connect bellydance to the Middle East. "Harem girl" for them would be a gigantic step toward understanding the origins of bellydance. To them it's just some kind of sexy dance style, perhaps something they saw in a music video.

You can wrap your veil around an audience member's shoulders and do an old-fashioned "sultan" spiel or you can play your techno music and do your androgynous pops and locks. Whatever you do, most "mainstream" audiences will accept it as "bellydance." They don't know what "Middle Eastern" dance is (folkloric dance, - since raqs sharqi and other stage styles are, themselves, fusion). And, once they see it, they won't necessarily perceive it as "authentic." A theatrical illusion is more convincing than reality: to the Western eye Tribal/Tribal fusion bellydance looks more "authentic," and exotic than a real Cairene baladi girl in a galabeya dancing at her sister's wedding.

The success of Tribal and Tribal fusion bellydance is definitely rooted in entertainment market demographics. As the "ethnic" audiences in the US urban centers fade away, bellydance adapts to the interests of "ethnically"-neutral and more educated entertainment consumers.

This ethnically-neutral educated "general public" plus the modern hip crowd are a receptive audience for bellydance styles that are:

1. not overtly commercial, but arty and evocative
2. not overtly sexual, but either androgynous or female-audience-oriented
3. suggestive of a spiritual connection
4. trendy (i.e. not your grandmother's bellydance)
5. suggestive of camaraderie between dancers rather than competition or conflict
6. presenting the dancer as a spiritual educator or a positive, empowering female role model (as opposed to sexy seductress type)
7. not necessarily authentic, but "exotic" and evocative of "world" flavor in a way that is easy to grasp for Western audiences.

All these criteria are met perfectly by Tribal/Tribal fusion bellydance styles.

Thinking of these trends, I find reason for all of us to rejoice, no matter what style we perform. The more art forms flourish around us in the context of bellydance, the more unique each sub-culture of bellydance can become, offering an increasing number of avenues for success. Also, the more our audiences come to understand the differences among the forms of bellydance, the more they will come to understand what constitutes quality in each genre - and become more demanding as a result. That means more pressure on us, artists, to keep evolving.

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Comments
Tempest
a very interesting, perceptive, and poignant article on Easy Coast developments!

Aziza
Well, I hate so called "Tribal" belly dance. Mostly un authentic crap. So much authentic beautiful technique of true belly dance has been lost. I even see so called "modern cabaret" style dancers doing stuff that is not true to the authentic belly dance. Meaning they are standing around pushing up their chests in a jerky fashion, rotating their chests in a strange circle, or when they are doing a hip flip leaning back, their arms are pumping up and down more like Chubby Checker's "Twist" arm position.(Shoulder shimmies are correct technique, not hip-hop baloney) All this fusion crap is killing belly dance because no one will remember the true art. Real fusion just happened over time in history. It was not cooked up in a day. It was a cross pollination of local Middle Eastern culture with the Gypsy, etc. The fusion of say, "Kabuki Theatre" and Belly Dance just wouldn't work because it has no real connection or relation at all. Too much crap now. Go back to authenticity, if you remember how! Aziza (I'd be glad to show you in a seminar!)

Tempest
Sorry, that was supposed to be "East Coast"---a little Freudian slip on my part. And Aziza, while everyone is surely entitled to their opinion, my recommendation would be to spend all that energy of yours on promoting the dance form you love. Nothing is being "threatened" by growth or change, everything cycles...even in Tribal, there's a growing movement back towards ATS rather than Fusion in some circles. It's quite interesting to study, if you can put aside negativity and have an open mind focused at the ENTIRE belly dance community.

Aziza
Hi Again, From Aziza, I actually had more to say, so I'm glad you commented, "Tempest." First of all when people mentioned "Tribal" belly dance to me for the first time about 5 years ago and gave me a tape, I took a look at it with an open mind. What I saw of "Gypsy Caravan, " Carolina Nerricio, and others both surprised and bored me at the same time. Women with lousy posture moved around in costumes that were dull and unflattering to the human form, to monotonous, unharmonious music and the result abused the privelege of being "hypnotic." It had the strange feel of "cult" like behavior. This was confirmed in my mind when I heard the lecture by Nericcio that said "Tribal" belly dance was an "American Invention" and that "solos" were "discouraged." After almost being "put under" by their performances, hearing this info confirmed the whole thing was a "Get ready, the spaceship comes to get us Thoisday!" Part 3 of comment coming up. Aziza

Aziza
Complaint #1: Authentic belly dance is a "solo" or "couples" dance. Even in "line dance" individuals are encouraged to get out in the middle and belly dance while the others go around them, and they take turns. "Complaint #2: There is nothing "Tribal" ("Family") or "Sisterly" about discouraging or detracting from another woman's moment to shine. Women in Oriental/Near East Culture are the opposite, indeed. "Complaint # 3: If people are "inventing" a new "American Art" they should also "invent" a new name for it not call it a type of "belly dance". More to come, Aziza

Aziza
Finally, I am Arabic, Armenian and Gypsy (A real one, not a San Francisco "pseudo" type Gypsy that seems to be in vogue) I definately have a right to strong opinion on this subject. The Greek nightclub owners entertained all the immigrants from the Near and Middle East in their establishments and they respected their patrons. If a dancer showed up for audition and gave them an "Abbott and Costello Meets the Mummy" type routine with say "Indian" type squats, the owner politely told them, "Thank You very much" and sent them home. I love this art, but something proliferating now is a lack of respect for the people whose heritage it represents. Their art managed to stay unchanged for millennia and only started being quelched in the last 30 or so years when Mass Media and American Pop Culture took over. When I can't have fun with the audience and get to be "pretty" I'm going to "Hang it up!". Aziza

Neon
Hi Aziza, wow, you really feel strongly about this - and have a lot of thoughts to share. Why not write an article for The HIp Circle to discuss this issue in full depth? Email editor@thehipcircle.com if you think it's a good idea.

ZanAsha
Uhhmm....ok, I've waited by the side lines politely long enough. Aziza, uhmm, tuck in your ignorance, it's showing. First of all...your bellydance that has "gone unchanged for a millenia" actually WAS changed. During the Golden Era of Bellydance in Egypt (my father's era..he was full Egyptian, does that give me MORE of a right to speak and defend, than you?), Russian and British ballet teachers and choreographers were brought in to teach the Egyptian dancers more "grace" and "poise" as the newly expatriated British and tourist industry in that country were not interested in the flat footed "ungainly" look of AUTHENTIC bellydance at that time. So, all the lovely armwork and work on the balls of the feet? Yep, NOT authentic. Second of all...American Tribal Style was the name given to "tribal bellydance" originally. Notice, THAT original name never called itself bellydance. Also, if you observe beyone your initial introduction to tribal, there are many instances where the each dancer in the group is invited into the center to do a solo. By her series of moves, it is the skill of the others to match her, and they are her chorus, or support. I find your use of the term "cult" rather interesting. You make fun of the "sisterhood" in tribal, but I can point out several instances where umm...very unsisterly acts (gee, such as nasty critiquing) have undermined the American Cabaret/traditional bellydance community. What is the threat factor? Noone in the experimental community means to be threatening, nor are we out to "convert" anyone. I can safely say that attitudes like yours are the reason I LEFT The cabaret scene to begin with. I understand your concerns, really I do, but there is soooo much bellydance going on in the Western world that I see little "threat" of "traditional" American bellydance dying out. By the way, the problem with living in this country is its progressiveness in terms of art. Most dance in this country (even ballet...thank you George Ballanchine) has morphed into something different. This includes American bellydance; it is NOT the same as that done in the Middle East. To truly keep the TRUE Middle Eastern dance as PURE art form, one must then stay in the MiddleEast. Ohyeah, but they're into rap and American products now...they wanna be US. Hmm...... Ahh, but I'm sure you'll have something to say on this, too.

Tempest
to the "Aziza", I'd also like to point out, if you really do wish to promote your particular style, you'll definitely get more interest with honey, rather than vinegar. You may also want to consider doing some more actual research on the history of "belly dance" in the last century both here in the US and the Middle East. Having a cultural lineage to any given area does not equate to immediate understanding and all-encompassing knowledge, nor necessarily given talent in the dance. If that was true, I'd be able to speak Russian and Italian, while doing the Havah Nagila and Rajhastani basket dances from birth. (Of course, this same argument doesn't explain how I'm genetically engineered to make meatballs..)

Aziza
Actually, I'm more qualified than just being "Middle Eastern." I've entertained every ethnic group (and have been appreciated by all of them) in an almost 40 year career that began at the age of one. I added zil at age 2. I was a guest of the "Turkish Voice TV" program in the NY, NJ, PA area for 7 years from the age of 6 to the age of 13 and a retrospective of my work was shown on my final appearance. (Actually, I was wowing the Arabs in Brooklyn and Greeks at the old "Sirocco," etc. and banquets, social functions, etc. around the same time.) I had a blast and was crazy about other dancers, my mother and her pals. I have a lot more to say about all this, but I may write an article soon about the "psychology" of all this and also some thoughts on modern need for "categorization" and "typing" of every last thing on earth. Growing up in belly dance my mother and I had so many close friends who were belly dancers I find all of this "put down" of femininity puzzling. The way Arabic girls, Turkish girls and American girls danced was not really all that different stylistically. Individuals were different more through personalities, had different "favorite steps," etc. All the Arabic girls entered with "half circle turns" for instance, arms held up and to the sides. Where are the lovely circle patterns today? So much more to say, so little time! I'll write an article for ya soon, Neon. Stimulating stuff! Aziza

Desari
Neon, I always appreciate reading your perspective on the happenings on the New York bellydance scene. I admire your sharp insight and your way with words. Love, Desari

Lola
Neon, very informative article. Aziza, I am sure you are a sweet and loving person... and I am sure you don't realize how unfriendly and bitter you sound. It would be very good for you to read "How to Win Friends and Influence People", or something similar. Hopefully the article you are about to write will be inspiring and enlightening rather than preachy and dogmatic.

Aziza
Hi Ladies, Don't mean to sound bitter, just knew and loved so many beautiful and sweet belly dancers of the 60's who worked hard at their craft, I was just horrified they're being reduced to "western male sexual" fantasies, in essence, like saying they were somehow "unlady like." As far as authentic, my heart is broken remembering my dear sweet mother's pride in her costume making. She loved vests with ornamentation, and even made a costume with vertical stripe fabric not unlike the costumes of some of the regional dancers featured in Wendy Buonaventura's "Serpent of the Nile: Women and Dance in the Arab World," a must have for all interested in belly dance. (My favorite paintings are by Muhammed Racim in the 1830's of Algerian dancers) Ironically, I was informed by another "hip circle" article of why after working hundreds of ethnic and other venues my mother was not hired at the "Ibis." I read Gamila's article and thought it was interesting to learn the owner didn't want blondes. I came home and told my mother just recently that was probably why she wasn't hired! She didn't know. Ha! Live and learn. And the irony was that my mother and father both were asked by a Saudi Prince to do his "graduation" piece for the Columbia School of Broadcasting, which they did. Then the Prince threw a dinner party in my Mother's honor and another Saudi student played the Nai and the Prince accompanied her on Oud while she danced in her street clothes. My mother said, "Oh, I wish I'd told them that at the Ibis!" Arabic people, at that time anyway, just loved good dancing, didn't care who did it! Anyway, it proves to not discriminate against people over their looks, however the great thing about belly dance is the transformation. And remember that just because a girl is pretty or has a pretty costume, it doesn't mean she is just a sexpot. Take care, dolls! And look for an informative article sometime soon when I get the chance! I miss you guys in New York! I've lived with Southern Baptists for several years and am nuts now! (Ridiculed me for wearing pink. I said, "Last time I checked, I'm a girl, and girls get to wear Pink!" Love and Kisses, "Little Zizi" (Talk to you when I get a chance soon Neon.)

veildancer9
Perhaps there is a way to educate about the different styles in a way that is more embracing. It does no good to knock one way without portraying what is *truly* "authentic", and illustrating what makes the other way NOT authentic. Now I'm curious... when something is considered "wrong", I like to know what is "wrong" about it and why what is "right"... is right. I'm intrigued and would love to learn more. Thanks for opening my eyes to a bevy of topics...now where do I turn for my answers? Best wishes always, ~V

AutumnWard
Neon, thanks for the insightful article. While I’m delighted by the growing Tribal presence in New York City, I’m concerned by the perception that Tribal represents a “high art” aesthetic that is necessarily absent in “cabaret” dancing. Not all “cabaret” dancing happens in cabarets (or restaurants, nightclubs, etc.). (And perhaps it’s time we identified separate language for this idiom.) Non-tribal dancers also create theatrical work that is more focused on artistic expression than audience approval. Let’s not become entrenched in a false dichotomy of artistic “high art” tribal dancers vs. popular culture, commercial cabaret “entertainers.” In all populations, one finds abundant examples of dancers who rely more on gimmick, atmosphere, costuming/appearance or personal charisma than on dance skill or artistic substance. Equally, I’d like to think that cowrie shells are irrelevant to dancer’s entitlement to produce artistic, highly skilled, technically sophisticated, innovative, creative, thoughtfully-constructed dance. Cheers, Autumn Ward

Neon
Autumn - I totally agree with everything you said. Analyzing trends, esp. at a commercial angle, inevitably results in juggling huge generalizations. I assume that we all proceed from seing reality in all its depth and complexity, and then make a step aside to look at it from a different angle and see what facets emerge to the fore.

Aziza
Autumn, I think it's great you commented on this because I'm impressed with your background in Uzbek dance. Musicians in Greektown NYC used to tell my mother Johanna she "look like Uzbek girl!" A thrill of her life was seeing the 1960's tour of the "Soviet Folk Dance" ensemble that included Uzbek, Georgian, and other dancing of the "republics." Also agree about costume, as I said to start with. What kind of fabric people wore while belly dancing in different Near and Middle East settings had more to do with what was available to them, like could they afford it, availability, local style, etc. Most women are drawn to pretty fabrics and would use nicer types when they could get them, thus a great variation is sometimes seen in old paintings, early photographs, etc. from the most simple to the more elaborate. Wanting to wear exquisite fabrics doesn't mean we're less artistic. Also, about this article, one more thing, in "old days" I knew a lot of "intellectual" and "educated" types in Greek and Middle Eastern nightclubs. A fantastic "melange" of people from all walks of life frequented these places. There was never a dull moment! I gotta go. Love Ya, Aziza

Carmine
I think things need to change and evolve... My friend's dad tells me "The Beatles" is music. My uncle tells me it's Elvis. My band mate tells me it's Led Zeppelin. My best friend says it's Posion and Motely Crue My other friend said it was Nirvana Someone else told me it's the winner of a large scale kareoke contest on TV.

Blanca
How about loving Elvis, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Cure, Nirvana, Tool, AND Gorillaz? Is it possible to love – or at least respect – all types of bellydance? Why do we humans constantly play that "my toy is better than your toy" game? It's more fun to enjoy everything than to fight for a cause... at least for me! Kissies to all...

Amulya
Isn't it a good thing that there are new styles of belly dance emerging? It doesn't mean those will replace more traditional styles, it just mean more styles. Belly dance has always been evolving and it still does (that makes it so interesting) I am sure there are plenty of dancers who try to preserve traditional styles, so we don't have to be afraid that those will die out.

Divyana
Hi I am Divyana I grew up in NYC/NJ . I myself am a Gothic FEthno-Fusion dancer. I spent my life reading, studying and training in many ethnic forms od dance. Ballet as a girl of 3 till 16. Flamenco since 12, Samba/african/Jazz/Middle eastern, Tahitian and Indian in my twentys till now. I am of Spaniard/Roman/Austrian and Kashmiri decent. Los If anyone knows Fusion it is me. I am thrilled to be a Dancer from NYC. where fusion was created I think from the worlds biggest melting pot. I believe vareity is the spice of life. Every dancer has her own look, style and tecnique. We can learn the tradtional but its the Tribal/Fusion that makes us unique. I accept everones opinion and open mind to the genre. One thing I would like to see is sisterhood. I myself tried to befriend many dancers just to have them belittle or insult me. Or just turn their backs on me as if to put me down for being who I am and what I have done. I have been a performer since 1985 starting with Rock bands in NUJ/NYC ( back up dancer) while I trained in Flamenco/Ballet at Princton Ballet School in NJ. I also trained/studied with various teachers/studios in NY,PR,FL Spain and Venezuela for the past 10 years. I am very fasinated by the mix of dance genres imerging!! I dont like to label myself as Tribal though I am very into Gothic/Indian/Ambiant/Spanish music. So I design my costumes and routines to my taste. I haven t had a problem yet. I also do tradional Egyptian with costumes for more coporate or conservative types when need be. I promote and host a Gothic Lounge night in CT now called Avant Garde for entertainers and fans of the dark genre. I have had great performers at my night.I myself just recently pwerformed a vampiric number in my own self created Gothic belly dance costume with Bat wings. I was well admired for my originality. It pays to be different. I would like to gether a number of Gothic/Tribal Dancers to join me in a CT first gathering hafla and Workshop. If anyone is interested. Or I would like to join the next one in NYC. By the way I started training in Bhangra/Bollywod now and love it. I hope to start teaching in the Summer at a nearby studio. If I do not move back to NYC lols. Neon your article was great and everyone is very imformative. Belly blessings to all my dance sisters here Divyana